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UPDATED: New Poetry Scam Alert: not just reading fees but also bogus competitions!

29/4/2016

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Another day, another poetry scam, which we're adding as a prefix to our main story...

A contributor in the US reports he was recently on stage at a reading with another poet who had won a book deal in a small press publisher's contest.

On his 5th glass of wine the other poet admitted the publisher was an academic friend who had taught him on his MFA and that they "had agreed the book deal months ago and only ran the contest to get the entry fees out of other people" to fund the book. "They didn't read any of the entries," he added!

There is an annoying tendency for trends within US poetry publications and zines to be followed in the UK – for example a number of UK titles have now introduced "reading seasons" – however a Grievous Angel contributor in the US has just alerted Urban Fantasist to what she says is becoming an increasingly common practice in the US, namely the reading fee.

Essentially literary magazines are charging writers a "reading fee" to submit their work – but then don't pay them anything even if their  work is accepted and published. Or, at least the only "pay" is a copy of the magazine but you can't cash that at a bank!

Another approach is to ask for a fee if you want a response within a month – and yet others mention the fact they don't charge a fee, as if that is a big deal. The fees are generally small ($3 to $5) but it all adds up, particularly if you are a poet submitting a lot of work. And, as our contributor points out, no one's getting rich writing poems!

We know a lot of UK poetry mags only survive because they charge entry fees for their “competitions” but this takes it to the next step of charging you a fee to merely submit a poem – and with no guarantee it will be published. At least with good old fashioned vanity/pay-to-play publishing you actually get to see see your work in print!

Grievous Angel, incidentally, does NOT charge a reading fee but it DOES pay contributors – with money!
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Dr SP Conboy-Hill link
19/4/2016 10:57:28

There's something either naive or iniquitous about these trends. While I very much appreciate the costs in time and effort required to publish material, people know this before they begin and so I wonder about the business model they had in mind when setting up their market. To do so with no aim of generating an income is either extremely altruistic or ultimately exploitative if they then go on to charge for reading. And then there's the matter of power differential - in most situations the customer (the one who pays) has rights with regard to the product they're buying. But with publishing, there's the perceived hold the publisher has over the creator of material they're not even guaranteeing to purchase and won't refund the author for if they don't. So you get your work read. Is it reasonable to pay for that when you don't know who's judging or what criteria they're using, or even if they were in a particularly bad mood when they read yours, and there's likely to be nothing tangible in return? And what if you don't hear from them for months? Unlike an undelivered product from Amazon, you don't bang off a complaint and get it addressed by return, you wait and you wait until finally you send the walking-on-eggshells-in-order-not-to-offend message and hope not to be drummed out of the publishing world forever. For my part, I've been largely well-treated, but then I select my markets and maybe that's a luxury some don't feel they have. Here's to you, Charles, for not being one of those publishers.

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Suzanne Conboy-Hill
19/4/2016 19:45:02

Just to clarify that last sentence - Charles is one of the good guys :)

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